FVS InQ ponder

[Sthax]

Hey all

I’m trying to figure out a fun FVS InQ build. DPS heals Mass frog.

This is what i came up with so far, any pointer are welcome:

 
FVS 17 Barb 2 Ranger 1 

R FF BB FFFFF FFFFF FFFFF

Wis based
Ashimar Scourge

Max WIS 
21 (14 - 7 Tome) DEX <- dump dex for INT??? Get insightful reflex over 
combat archery? loose 1W but get higher KtA and reflex saves.   
Rest CON
INT can use some love if possible, can be gotten from expensive 3 point CON points (14?)

 
-   7 normal feats   -
1 Point blank
3 completionist
6 Precision
9 Precise Shot
12 Ranged crit
15 IPS - hopefully BaB will be 11 here
18 Quicken or Rapid shot  <- is this really needed? testing on my shuri chucker 
showed it was a minimal increase at best. 
I could go for necro/transmutation to unlock +2 twist or spell pen for beter spell landing

-   FVS Feats    -
Follower of Aureon for +4 wis
Knowledge of battle - Wis to dmg and hit
Stout of Heart - HP increase

-   Epic Feats    -
21 Combat archery 
24 Overwhelming Crit 
27 Speed 
30 Epic Thoughness

-   Destiny Feats   -
26 Guardian Angel   
28 Double Shot
29 Mass Frog

-   Legendary Feat   -
30 Celestial - for hp and healing

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AP’s 80 - 1 racial - 1 universal

INQ 41+1

Ashimar 6+1 for wis and LoH cores

Harper 7 - KtA

FVS- WAR 23 -  holy striker 10% DS and some fun stuff 

Just figured this split would ake barb kinda redundant, 
need 8 ap there for 3 boosts, might drop kta then for boosts,
then i can also drop the Int in(t)vestment. 

[Sthax]

could go 2 fighter instead of barb to grab 2 extra feats and get the extra boosts for similar price. thoughness and rapid shot for example

[Legend]

cant see rapid reload!

Unless fvs 17 give you something really good I am going to try a fvs build next racial, I will prob either go 16 fvs, 4 ranger for the 2 feats from ranger or 14 fvs, 6 ranger to get access to sniper shot.

[Sthax]

Fun wings and spells for buffing and heals!

Stu opted to do 2 monk (uncentered) 1 fight to get extra feats. which solve some things on the feat department

Then i could also see if i take KtA or get the falconary tree for extra’s. Although i could take the FVS-War AP’s to falconary too.

Some stuffs to test out, for sure.

[Sthax]

Alternate option with fighter, no monk yet as it will eat a +1 heart.

FVS 17 Fighter 2 Ranger 1 

R FFFF FFFFF FiFi FFF FFFFF

Wis based
Ashimar Scourge

Max WIS 
21 (14 + 7 Tome) DEX  
Rest CON
INT can use some love if possible, can be gotten from expensive 3 point CON points (14?)

 
-   7 normal feats   -
1 Point blank
3 Completionist
6 Precision
9 Precise Shot
12 Ranged crit / * sneak of shadows 
15 IPS
18 Quicken

-  Fighter Feats   - 
11 Rapid Reload 
12 Toughness / ranged crit*

-  FVS Feats    -
Follower of Aureon for +4 wis
Knowledge of battle - Wis to dmg and hit
Stout of Heart - HP increase

-  Epic Feats    -
21 Overwhelming crit
24 Combat archery 
27 Speed
30 Epic Toughness/ open feat* rapid shot

-  Destiny Feats   -
26 Guardian Angel
28 Double Shot
29 Mass Frog

-  Legendary Feat   -
30 Celestial - for hp and healing

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AP’s 80 - 1 racial - 1 universal

INQ 40+1

Ashimar 6+1 for wis and LoH cores

Harper 7 - KtA - can go to ashimar dps boost. Or low fruit in fvs-war

FVS- WAR 23 -  Holy striker 10% DS and some fun stuff / or take in Falconry for dps boost and fun, leaves KtA ap free. 

Excess points for extra boosts 

[Chrof]

Are you wanting to have the scourge past life?

[Sthax]

nope not specificly, just thoughed the LoH and wis would add to the support and dps

btw, another oversight: ashimar scoirge and Aureon deity dont go together. need to pick a eberon iconic for that.

Could do PDK – fugly pieces of #$^#

[Chrof]

Then a normal ashimer?

[Sthax]

would loose the aureon +4 wis

but Tr’d my inq to a wis fvs inq now

took INW T5 and flaconary 23 points to test out, feels gimped compared to other InQs i started.

[Healliona]

Good afternoon.

I know that I’m “old fashion” but I’m not sure that you will be able to DPS if you heal.
This build will be really nice up to R5 / 7 but after unfortunately you have to make a choice.

If you want to DPS and help the poor healer that isn’t able to heal himself because of heal penalty, I would say get heal.
If you chose to heal you won’t be able to deal any damage after R7 because you will have to focus on heals.

I’m not a reference in term of a healer, but even if I try to heal and put a little CC after R7 it can lead to a death because when you CC or DPS you don’t heal.
I’ve tried to do both with a Druide wolf healer it was a fail.
Maybe because I’m not able to do 2 things at the same time.

Maybe Stu is able to give you more input on how healing + DPS since he is more used to both with it’s FVS.

You at least can add a glob of true imp blood and a +2 wisd festivul diamon if you have.
And get yulgo favor ,o): Will be able to help you at the end of the week if you need.

Sébastien.

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Add:
I don’t know what is the time lost between an attaque and a heal but this input maybe a plus here.
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[Chrof]

Ranged dps and casting is the hardest as there’s a delay between finishing an attact and casting but I’ve not tried with quick draw{I can do some testing} , melee is easier as also you can just target masses on yourself.
But multi task healing is OK. You just have to decide when you need to go full healing and when to mix it up. With fvs the spray heals are very nice and better than normal masses as often the group is not on a mass range more in a line and there nearly no animation with it. But the ap for that is to tight with what your wanting. And yes dps will be much less, very little sneak dmg and missing +w attacks from ranger, rogue or arti.
Oncenyou get epic you gain 3 then and makes it better.
Best I’d say is to play it as a mix toon. If your only healer then be one if other is there then be dps also easy content then dps mix heal mode also.

Sorry for the wall of text

[Healliona]

Good… Bha end of morning.

Maybe empowerheal + quicken + enlarge would be a plus if you decide to heal afetr R6 / 7?

I had such discussion with you all about enlarge and I have to admit that it was a good advice: When you are in a raid or big area this is a plus.
With those ranged builds you may have the tank at a side of a room of dual shooter in the other side…

Sébastien.

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