Dhanae Redux

[Flavia]

All my old stable of Alt is really… well old… The game changed so much and the Epic levels have had such a big impact that they need to be worked on.

In the case of Dhanae, it’s not as obvious as with Laria or Tenalafel ( that could barely cope with epic normal before being worked on )…
She is still wearing most of her LVL 16ish kit, and she still can survive relatively well… But she is lacking power…

She is one of the 3 Halfling Sisters : Sylphae, Danae, Feyrae.
Originally I created them for a NWN PW as jail guardians ( Syl for Good, Danae for Neutral and Fey for Evil aligment characters ) for dead players…
Each jail had it’s own perks ( Good was just a boring empty room with just syl standing in the middle, and you had to cool down in there for a set amount of time, Neutral had some fun, that could reduce your time in jail, if you were willing to have some fun [ among the fun was story telling, another choice was to enrage Dhanae… It wasn’t a good idea, lots complaiend about it ], Evil had monsters sent after you by Feyrae, if you managed to defeat enough waves you were let free ).
[ I know some will notice that Syl is the Undead Wizard and Fey is the Cleric of the family… well it wasn’t intentional, but somehow it fits ]

Enough on the background…
I’ve been thinking for a long time to do something for Dhanae…
I’ve worked with combos like Brd12/Drd6/Ftr2, Brd6/Drd12/Ftr2, and variations on the theme ( Rgr in place of Ftr, and more ) but none seemed fine for me.
I always thought that something was lacking… Dhanae is a Halfling TWF Bard Warchanter initially. And that’s what I wanted to keep in her… Halfling Bard TWF.

So finally I came up with the following.
I’m not convinced with
– the Spellcraft skill where I put points
– some of the points in Heal
For the rest I think I got the essence of what I want :
I’ll have to find a +1 DEX Tome in Yaelle hoard of Tomes ( I know she has one, or a better one ), all the other tomes are already eaten.

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Dhanae
Level 25 Neutral Good Halfling Female
(6 Fighter \ 14 Bard \ 5 Epic)
Hit Points: 311
Spell Points: 640
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 18
Will: 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 25)
Strength 13 15
Dexterity 16 22
Constitution 13 15
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 9
Charisma 17 21

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 25)
Balance 7 15
Bluff 3 10
Concentration 1 7
Diplomacy 3 10
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 10
Heal 1 13
Hide 3 15
Intimidate 3 10
Jump 1 11
Listen -1 6
Move Silently 3 13
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform 7 33
Repair -1 4
Search -1 4
Spellcraft 3 25
Spot -1 4
Swim 1 7
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 7 33

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Spellcraft (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack

Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons

Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse

Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)

Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical

Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)

Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons

Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)

Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense

Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 25 (Epic)
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[Grugno]

Interesting, a TWF bard….
I think I’ll try a Bard15/Rng5 build on Insert 😉
Freeze + balanced attack, growing storm and dance of death. Dual Nightmare (so old fashioned…)
will let you know if that works 🙂

[Sinaefay]

I would drop Oversized TWF and take quicken spell instead (you will not struggle with hitting).

I would drop Power Critical and take Empower Healing spell instead. (Great for cocoon, but will also mean that your cure spells will heal very high with maximize spell).

I would drop Two weapon fighting defense and take Maximize spell.

I would also take Precision instead of power attack, as you will gain so much more from being able to crit than from the additional points of dmg on your main hand attacks (str mod gets halved on off-hand, which means that power attack only adds half the bonus as well).

For l26 destiny feat, I suggest that you take perfect twf, and at l28 you could take Tactician (+2 on freezing ice attacks) or Lasting Inspiration (longer songs always good).

Why points in spellcraft? You have no spells that uses elemental dmg, unless you plan to use energy burst as twist (sonic spells uses perform as skill that boosts dmg).
I would suggest putting points in Perform, Heal, UMD, Balance and Concentration (maxing perform, concentration [for scrollage mainly], heal and balance in this order).

Also, if you went bard15/fighter5, you get inspire heroics and you can then take Inspire Excellence at 24 or 27.

[Flavia]

I knew I had missed something.

As for Spellcraft… It was to put the points somewhere… I knew from the start that they would have to find a new home…
Perform and UMD are maxed already, so I’ll got for Concentration and put what’s left in Heal or Balance.

[Flavia]

Dhanae Take Two, after the suggestion from Jan :

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Dhanae
Level 25 Neutral Good Halfling Female
(5 Fighter \ 15 Bard \ 5 Epic)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 670
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 17
Will: 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 25)
Strength 13 15
Dexterity 16 22
Constitution 13 15
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 9
Charisma 17 21

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 25)
Balance 7 16
Bluff 3 10
Concentration 5 29
Diplomacy 3 10
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 10
Heal 1 15
Hide 3 15
Intimidate 3 10
Jump 1 9
Listen -1 6
Move Silently 3 13
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform 7 33
Repair -1 4
Search -1 4
Spellcraft -1 4
Spot -1 4
Swim 1 7
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 7 33

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Thrown Weapon Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak

Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precision
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trip

Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons

Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse

Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence

Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability

Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion

Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage

Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)

Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness

Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)

Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom

Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)

Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons

Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics

Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Power
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 25 (Epic)
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[Sinaefay]

I would go with Quick Draw instead of Weapon Focus, and take Toughness instead of Weapon Specialization (to free up the l24 feat slot for an epic feat, like Inspire Excellence). Weapon Focus and Weapon Spec don’t add much by themselves as you only have 5 fighter levels.

Quick Draw makes it so easier to use action boosts (no delay when clicking on them), and it also helps with weapon swaps.

[Grugno]

I tried the bard15/ranger5 build with Insert: PDK Cha based + Know the Angles, Tempest tree, WC for Frozen Fury and medium armor,
Not a top tier build, but Dance of Death + Frozen Fury is a really nice combo (multi freeze). DC destiny. Twist sense weakness and balanced attacks, extra action boost/ cocoon 😉

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