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  • #11958
    Sthax
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    oh yes forgot concentration for max default KI. so have o drop something else or drop 2 dex to int

    #11964
    Legend
    Member

    Not really looked at Shuricannons in too much detail so some abils might have been updated but from looking at build:

    – Are you using a bow and Shuriken?
    – Why have weapon finesse and Zen Archery? does Zen work with Shurikens?
    – Why take 2 IC feats (unless use bow and Shuriken)

    Out of curiousity how does manyshot apply to Shurikens at mo, if it does.

    edit: had presumed you took ten thousand stars! but can’t see it, this is whole point for monk lvls.

    #11965
    Ryan
    Member

    Iirc

    Manyshot and Zen only works with bows.

    10k Stars is what you want for Shuris.

    When I did my Shuri builds I alternated between 10k Stars (Shuri) and Manyshot (bow) depending on which was on cooldown.

    I did my lives pre AA imbue nerf which was a serious boost to dps.

    #11967
    Sthax
    Member

    Oh so srry guys.

    The char planner did not have 10k stars in the list. It should be in the weapon finesse spot.

    Yeah alternating between bow and shuri when multishot is off CD.

    atm running something similar on Sthex and dps is nice. The extra would be the halfling tree and extra sneak die.

    yeh the AA imbue was nuts, but it still packs some nice dps. Also the monk ring with KD in water stance is quite fun.

    Atm got up to 68% doubleshot and 80 Dex, non buffed.

    I just might reroll to halfling and have a go at it. I have some other ideas too and want to keep 1 raid able toon at 30. so have to decide who to TR

    #12070
    Sthax
    Member

    code can be boxed by using the ` in front and at the end. (that the symbol next to the 1 button on your keyboard)

    test, like this

    #12095
    Sthax
    Member

    So fiddling around with yet another option for a shuri chucker.
    Might be a bit out there but would be a nice change of pace for a chucker.
    Stacking up dex and int for KtA and using kensei for special attacks.
    Would run in LD or Fury.

    I was eye this build before the nerfix on AA. but needed 4 racial to pull it of. now with the fix chuckers are different and this could be nice.

    
    Human
    
    12 fight // power surge
    6 monk // 10k stars  
    2 rogue // for UMD and skill stuff as high int and all?
    
    //Ability//
    dex / int / wis / con
    
    //skills//
    Concentration
    UMD
    search
    DD
    open lock
    heal
    hide
    move silent
    
    //Feats//
    -- 1 Human --
    point blank shot
    
    -- 7 normal --
    precise shot
    completionist
    2x monk stance
    imp crit
    Rapid shot
    power crit
    
    -- 7 fighter --
    precision
    imp crit: thrown
    Weapon focus: thrown
    G weapon focus: thrown
    weapon specialisation: thrown
    imp precise shot
    manyshot
    
    -- 3 monk  --
    zen archery / thougness
    Shuri exp
    10k stars
    
    // AP's //
    
    T5 Kensei 34 (power surge + Range Attacks)
    
    Human boost 5 (dex / int boost)
    
    ninja Spy 26 (no mercy and sneak)
    
    KTA 7
    
    7 left for flavor maybe int/wis/con boost or get that extra sneak from rogue.
    
    
    #12183
    Sthax
    Member

    bit of an update…

    The build works well. Dex gets up to 97 with power surge and human boost + tensers so thats good.
    4 to 5 shuri per throw.
    HP hits 1500+ also good
    prr 170 / mrr 50 / dodge 45% / Hamp 180 on pots from kensei
    with boosts going in raid i hit 280 range power and 90 doubleshot.

    Ld is the choice destiny for this, got my SPite shuri and with buffs/boosts running get upto 800 dmg per shuri on Baba in EH.

    All n all not bad at all, the only problem is it is very boring because I’m missing things like sniper shot etc to keep me busy and active.
    There is the good death from kensei with is nice too as it does 5k dmg per shuri but sadly does not work with adrenaline.

    Tried Shadow destiny and shiradi which are a bit more versatile at the cost of dps. Fury works well too but has the boring problem, fun thing is that adrenaline fills up super quick with all the shuri’s thrown.

    Might roll back to 6 ranger 14 monk if they crap out power surge in next update.

    Note: Dag asked if combat archery was working on Shuri’s as he did not see a change in char sheet. Will get back on that if/when we find out.
    // edit: It works fine and gets added to stats.

    #12888
    Sthax
    Member

    As they changed Power surge and up time isn’t 100% and doesn’t count as a boost for the human boost extra’s, the build became combersome and less fluid to play.
    The boring part i solved by adding falconary and investing in wis instead of int. not a bad build but its time to do something different.

    New iteration of the chucker:

    Before i revert back to a standard 6ranger/14monk build i’m gonna test an Asimaar Scourge SA build. I think Dex would get up there (100) and will test some SA dmg imunnity solutions.

    Basic build will be 6 ranger for sinper shot and DWS tree. 6 monk for 10k star and stance and 8 rogue for utility and extra SA. I’m winging it to see how it will perform and test some stuff.

    Testing:
    – Getting loads of SA die from ninja spy, DWS and assassin tree.
    – testing assassin’s Trick to bypass SA immunities
    – testin SD cappstone to bypass SA immunities
    – Testing viability of Fury mode on SA build, while maintaining SA immunity bypass.

    As there arn’t many feats to take i’ll keep to the standard chucker stuff.
    will get sneak of shadows and the hide to SA dmg at capp.

    Prolly get INT based for skillpoints and KtA, instead of falconary.

    Will get back on results and if viable a lvling roadmap.

    Cheers
    Sth*x

    #12907
    Dragavon
    Moderator

    From what I have seen when people that play uber shuriken throwers post their builds there are 3 things all builds seem to have in common.

    Halfling.

    Ranger levels and going deep in Deepwood Stalker tree.

    Fury Destiny.

    #12908
    Sthax
    Member

    Yeh I considered taking halfling but that adds to thread range and i dont really have the AP points. This build focusses on SA dmg and therefore i forgo’d on the crit stuff and am trying to get as much hits as possible to deliver the SA dmg.

    If i wants crits its prolly better to go back to a fighter split. 6 ranger 6 fighter 8 monk. That way you can get crit multi and thread for kensei while still getting the goodies from DWS.

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