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  • #10319

    Korvel
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    Hello friends,

    i am writing here a little bit desperately needing advice. I have been searching around 2 weeks now the main forums, the vault for 2 main reasons. The first is to understand how the thrower mechanism and level / class split works along with the dps they do but cannot find anything new just obdsolete things before U36 and changes with AA imbues not working with anything but the bows.

    Secondly i would like to revive the melee build Korvail was once and was raiding all the time with you back when Gianthold epics were endgame..For this reason i am thinking about a staff build or a maul build but i cannot decide going monk or rogue or anything else for splits when wielding a staff..

    I know i put some vague questions here but actually many things are not clear in my head and that is very confusing. Will be great to hear opinions and start a discussion here with you all.

    Thanks..

    #10328

    Ryan
    Member

    Hello Korv.

    On Corazon I did my second and third Monk lives as Monkchers (pre imbue nerf) and had a blast.
    For my final Fighter life (post nerf)I went 8Ftr 6Mnk 6Rgr and didnt get on with it as I felt it was a bit lacklustre due to the lack of embues.

    That being said, I built it wrong – I built it as a pre nerf with lots of Wis for CC using paras. My mediocre Dex was very noticeable and I ended up ditching Shurikens and going fill time bow.

    Ive seen post nerf Shuri throwers and they still work very well – Im sure Dag has one which is very strong (he pulls aggro frequently) and is very survivable, although I dont know the class split he uses.

    What class split/ PL are you after as it will help people to know what you want.

    #10329

    Korvel
    Member

    Well concerning ranged build i am thinking of rogue/ monk splash or pure monk. i know 6 ranger give 40% doubleshoot in tier 5 DWS but the rogue monk split (12/8 or 14/6 or even 12/8/ 2 ftr) gets more sneak attack dmg and can be built starting from level 15 as an iconic and by an etr you can reset things and can make a rogue/monk split with qstaffs if someone is bored with shurikens or for a change…

    #10330

    Dragavon
    Moderator

    When I started playing Funghus I loosely followed this build

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/463636-Some-New-Thrower-Builds?p=5661361&viewfull=1#post5661361

    But as I wanted a deep gnome char I used that race, and used a lesser heart to get rid of the wizard level.

    That build use a lot of action points in halfling racial tree, I used those points in the assasin tree, lots of good things there even if you are ranged.

    At the beginning I followed the level split / plan in that forum post, but after a couple of epic reincarnations I found that the ranger levels gave very little, so used another heart to remove them and replace with more monk levels.

    When I did that I took 6 monk levels to get a boost to the monk stance, and take 10k stars. Then I took one artificer level to get more spellpoints from my high intelligence and the arti dog when I am alone and need a lever puller somewhere. A wizard level would be useful too.

    When I used 10k stars I found that to be not so good, as its power comes from many monk levels and high wisdom. As a ranged I also had to invest action points to get passive Ki regeneration.

    On my last epic reincarnation I have not taken 10k stars, and instead used the action points I saved on not needing passive ki regen to use more points in harper to get know the angles. I feel that is more useful than 10k stars, but if I had more monk levels and higher wisdom I would probably have found 10k stars better.

    Funghus is now 13 rogue / 6 monk / 1 artificer, and I like this.

    #10331

    Korvel
    Member

    You have been very helpful indeed!!! Your main stat is dexterity right? and secondly intelligence?

    #10333

    Dragavon
    Moderator

    Yes, you want your dex as high as possible, to get as many shurikens per attack as you can. The build has 3 different things that increase number of shurikens per attack, I usually see 2-3-4 shurikens, often 5, and I believe I see 6 shurikens every now and then, but that is difficult to say 100%, as the numbers become a blur then 🙂

    BTW, I prefer the Legendary dreadnaught epic destiny, but Shiradi and Fury of the wild are also good options.

    #10335

    Korvel
    Member

    I will post a build breakdown here to tell me your opinions…

    #10338

    Korvel
    Member

    New Build
    14/6 Rogue/Monk
    Lawful Neutral

    Level Order

    1. Rogue 6. Monk 11. Rogue 16. Rogue
    2. Rogue 7. Monk 12. Rogue 17. Rogue
    3. Rogue 8. Monk 13. Rogue 18. Rogue
    4. Monk 9. Monk 14. Rogue 19. Rogue
    5. Monk 10. Rogue 15. Rogue 20. Rogue

    Stats
    28pt 32pt 34pt 36pt Tome Level Up
    —- —- —- —- —- ——–
    Strength 10 10 10 10 +6 4: DEX
    Dexterity 16 16 16 16 +6 8: DEX
    Constitution 14 14 14 14 +6 12: DEX
    Intelligence 14 15 16 16 +6 16: DEX
    Wisdom 8 10 10 12 +6 20: DEX
    Charisma 10 10 10 10 +6 24: DEX
    28: DEX

    Skills
    R R R M M M M M M R R R R R R R R R R R
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    ————————————————————
    Concent 2 ½ ½ 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Disable 4 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 4 1 23
    Open Lo 4 1 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 4 23
    Search 4 1 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 1 1 23
    Spot 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Balance 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Hide 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    UMD 4 1 1 3 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
    Jump 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 20
    Heal 2 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 11
    Tumble 4 1 1 6
    ————————————————————
    44 11 11 7 7 7 8 8 8 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13 13

    Feats

    1 : Point Blank Shot
    3 : Rapid Shot
    4 Monk : Shuriken Expertise
    5 Monk : Precision
    6 : Quick Draw
    9 : Precise Shot
    9 Monk : Ten Thousand Stars
    12 : Improved Critical: Thrown
    15 : Dodge
    18 : Improved Precise Shot
    21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic : Improved Sneak Attack
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike
    27 Epic : Blinding Speed
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Deific Warding
    30 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane

    1 Dragon : Draconic Ancestry: Red

    6 Monk : Path of Harmonious Balance

    16 Rogue : Opportunist
    19 Rogue : Improved Evasion

    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Mechanic (39 AP)
    • Arbalester
    1. Sharpshooter, Mechanics III
    2. Sharpshooter, Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    3. Sharpshooter, Wracking Shot III, Use Magical Device III, Dexterity
    4. Sharpshooter, Fletching III, Leg Shot, Dexterity
    5. Sharpshooter, Rapid Fire III, Sniper, Mechanical Reloader

    Ninja Spy (28 AP)
    • Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training, Shadow Veil
    1. Stealthy III, Sneak Attack Training, Acrobatic III
    2. Agility III, Sneak Attack Training
    3. Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
    4. No Mercy III, Dexterity

    Harper Agent (13 AP)
    • Agent of Good I, Dexterity
    1. Harper Enchantment, Traveler’s Toughness II
    2. Versatile Adept III, Know the Angles III

    Destiny

    Twists of Fate (possible)
    1. Whirling Wrists (Tier 3 Shiradi)
    2. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    3. Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)
    4. Piercing Clarity (Tier 4 Flowers)
    5. Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)

    #10346

    Korvel
    Member

    Any opinions on the above posted build?

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